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Linda P is seeking help to discover what became of Elizabeth Ingram of Beccles, later Elizabeth Sallows (also found as Sallowes), and to identify the father of her illegitimate son Richard Ingram.

Elizabeth was born to William and Ann Ingram née Lane, baptised in Beccles on 8 April 1797 (born 4 April 1797). In 1817 she gave birth to an illegitimate son, Richard Ingram, in Heckingham workhouse after being removed there by order from Beccles; at that time she was described as being “from Aldeby.” She was released from the workhouse a few months later at the request of her mother. Richard later became a soldier, and Linda descends from him.

Elizabeth married William Sallows in Beccles on 2 April 1818. Their known children from the Beccles parish registers are: William (born 12 Nov 1819), Benjamin (born 7 Sep 1821), George and James (both born 24 Apr 1825), Robert (born 27 Aug 1827, buried 8 Jan 1830), and Martha Ann (born 9 Jun 1829). After Robert’s burial in 1830, no confirmed trace of the family has been found.

A professional genealogist has already searched extensively in Suffolk and Norfolk archives, including: 1841 and 1851 census returns; parish registers for Beccles and Aldeby; poor law indexes (removal orders, settlement certificates, settlement examinations, bastardy records, apprenticeships); quarter sessions records; gaol book indexes; newspaper indexes including the Ipswich Journal; and nonconformist records including Beccles Independent / Congregational church transcripts. Very few poor law records survive for Aldeby for this period, and no bastardy record or settlement examination for Elizabeth has been found.

Richard Ingram’s second marriage certificate names his father as Thomas Ingram, tailor, which may refer to a grandfather or other relative rather than his biological father.

Linda’s public tree, including supporting material, can be viewed here: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/105629603/person/110049168417/facts

Linda S is researching Robert Carlisle (also found as Carlile), who served as a lance corporal in the Royal Fencible Americans in Nova Scotia during the American Revolutionary War. She believes he may have been present at the Battle of Fort Cumberland, where the regiment played a significant role.

The key question is what military service records survive for Robert Carlisle/Carlile, where they are held, and how they can best be accessed—particularly for someone with limited experience using The National Archives military collections. Linda would like to know which record sets are most likely to contain service details for a rank-and-file soldier in a provincial regiment: muster rolls, pay lists, discharge papers, pension material, land grants, or Loyalist claims, and whether these are online, indexed elsewhere, or require archive requests.

Research already completed includes work in the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick, where evidence was found that Robert’s widow Catherine later received a pension linked to his service. Linda also has Robert in the 1830 U.S. census living in Maine, along with information from local history sources relating to his later settlement in Sussex Vale after the war.

 

Di M has postcards from Denis who sailed on a troop ship from Singapore in 1938 to Ceylon

Who was Doris Mitchell (married surname)

She was the mother of Denis who sailed on a troop ship from Singapore in 1938 to Ceylon

FMP has her on the 1939 Register. I cannot find her on Ancestry 1939 Registry. She was born on 6 Nov 1889. I have found no other records for her as I do not know her maiden name. I am really looking for records on her son, Denis I have 2 post cards that he wrote to his mother from 2 two troopship – HMT Neuralia, and MV Dilwara. First PC to both parents, second to only his mother.

1939 address: Ambleside, Chalton Lane, Clanfield, Portsmouth Hants. 1st card posted Southampton 21 Feb193?8 2nd from PAQUE ROT??? on 9 Apr 1938 – signed D E M Who was Denis? Was he crew on the ship or was he a member of the armed forces being transported? A 3rd card in the collection in the frame is of HMS Duncan, with no further information. So who was he?

Using a rather general search I did not find any records about him on either FMP or Ancestry.

I hold no docs, just the cards written by him

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John

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2026-04-14

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